Trevor Phillips struggled to contain himself during an interview with the former home secretary, Dame Priti Patel.
The senior Conservative, who led the Home Office for three years during Boris Johnson’s premiership, said the public want to see results on the pledge of stopping small boats of migrants from crossing the Channel.
She said interventions such as speeches are “no substitute for action”.
Patel also appeared to criticise Braverman’s comments on multiculturalism, saying integration in Britain by ethnic minorities is something to be “proud of”.
And when pressed on whether she was leadership ambitions, this was the response: